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LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/12/2018 7:15 pm
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Frank is a 2 in this league.  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/12/2018 8:00 pm : link
Or a backup 1.
Embiid's mailing this one in so far  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2018 8:10 pm : link
and his teammates are following suit. I expect some separation in the second half.
RE: Frank's handle....yeesh.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/12/2018 8:17 pm : link
In comment 13830430 bceagle05 said:
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That's not his handle... that's just fucking laziness. A high school kid could pick those passes off.
Simmons better get a jumper  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 8:35 pm : link
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LOLance Thomas  
Jay on the Island : 2/12/2018 8:49 pm : link
14 minutes 0 points 1 reb 1 assist -8

Keep this guy in the starting lineup.
Mcconel is allowed to foul up and down the court  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 8:50 pm : link
Why? Why is he allowed to hand check?
Hardaway  
GMEN46 : 2/12/2018 8:57 pm : link
4-15 from field and 0-7 from 3 point range. Can we check that Steve mills actually graduated from Princeton. Iím calling fraud.
Is the Mudiay honeymoon over  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/12/2018 8:57 pm : link
now?

Give me Burke.
So glad Frank glued to bench because of 2 turnovers  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:01 pm : link
Meanwhile hardaway can chuck away
At what point does our clueless  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/12/2018 9:02 pm : link
head coach plant Hardaways ass on the bench?
Nets getting blown out at home by the Clippers.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2018 9:03 pm : link
We're gonna have a tough time jumping teams in the lottery.
RE: Is the Mudiay honeymoon over  
GFAN52 : 2/12/2018 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13830487 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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now?

Give me Burke.


There's a reason he was traded for Doug McDermott. His jump shot is broken.
RE: At what point does our clueless  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:04 pm : link
In comment 13830491 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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head coach plant Hardaways ass on the bench?


He is about to take out mudiay to play jack, guaranteed...

His offense is moronic, it is stagnant because it is constantly in the hands of the big man at the top of the key...

It is awful
Finally got Hardaway out of there  
ghost718 : 2/12/2018 9:07 pm : link
70 million dollars worth of bricks
Frankie didn't even touch him  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/12/2018 9:07 pm : link
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Honestly fuck you hornacek  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:07 pm : link
So how much have we seen mudiay and Frank together?

5 minutes? Called it earlier this coach talks out of his ass...can we fire this. Um already?
McConnell rubbing our noses in it.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2018 9:08 pm : link
Fucking scrub.
RE: McConnell rubbing our noses in it.  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:10 pm : link
In comment 13830500 bceagle05 said:
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Fucking scrub.


This Sixers team is easy to root against
No ball  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/12/2018 9:12 pm : link
movement. Everything goes to a one on one iso. Forget the extra pass.
RE: No ball  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:13 pm : link
In comment 13830506 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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movement. Everything goes to a one on one iso. Forget the extra pass.


It is hornacek offense and no point guard
Can someone explain why embiid was not ejected?  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:14 pm : link
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If hornacek is not going to play the young guys  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:18 pm : link
Fore and find someone who will..
Who here said Frank is gonna be a 15ppg  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/12/2018 9:19 pm : link
player by the end of the year?

Lmao.

16 minutes. 0-0-0 with two turnovers.
RE: If hornacek is not going to play the young guys  
GFAN52 : 2/12/2018 9:22 pm : link
In comment 13830514 nygiants16 said:
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Fore and find someone who will..


Wait....don't mess up the tank. Fire Hornacek after the season.
I'm not sure what sport Frank was playing tonight  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2018 9:22 pm : link
but it sure as shit wasn't basketball.
RE: I'm not sure what sport Frank was playing tonight  
GFAN52 : 2/12/2018 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13830520 bceagle05 said:
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but it sure as shit wasn't basketball.


He needs time in the development league to get his confidence back.
RE: RE: If hornacek is not going to play the young guys  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13830519 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 13830514 nygiants16 said:


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Fore and find someone who will..



Wait....don't mess up the tank. Fire Hornacek after the season.


I know but I can't look at his face anymorr...

Yeaterday: he says he is excited to play mudiay and Frank together going forward...

Tonight: they play 5 minutes together
Seriously  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/12/2018 9:28 pm : link
Who gives a shit who Frank played with tonight. If he played with Michael Jeffrey Jordan it wouldn't have mattered. He sucked.

Mudiay wasn't exactly lighting it up out there either.
RE: Seriously  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:29 pm : link
In comment 13830531 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Who gives a shit who Frank played with tonight. If he played with Michael Jeffrey Jordan it wouldn't have mattered. He sucked.

Mudiay wasn't exactly lighting it up out there either.


Agreed but my point was hornacek talks out of his ass..

He talks about development and jack plays 18 minutes tonight...

It is just a joke, that 18 minutes could of went to burke at least
nygiants16  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 2/12/2018 9:32 pm : link
Oh I agree. They've been doing this all year long. They've been giving us lip service. Talking about a youth movement and playing the young guys. So far it's been all bs.

Need to get rid of Hornacek. I wish the reporters would just come out and ask him what he's actually doing.
RE: nygiants16  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:33 pm : link
In comment 13830536 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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Oh I agree. They've been doing this all year long. They've been giving us lip service. Talking about a youth movement and playing the young guys. So far it's been all bs.

Need to get rid of Hornacek. I wish the reporters would just come out and ask him what he's actually doing.


He did it with burke and Frank also, talked up the pairing and we never saw it again..
Frank  
TyreeHelmet : 2/12/2018 9:36 pm : link
I know heís young but man will he need a massive improvement to become a starting PG. How could you pass on DSJ and Mitchell for this guy? Frank flashes nothing on offense....
It's tough to watch these games  
JustaDiscussion : 2/12/2018 9:36 pm : link
when the young guys don't do anything to show promise for the future... The kicker being that they really weren't given much of a chance to do anything tonight... I guess the silver lining is that they lost... yay!
Who we rooting for tonight  
GMEN46 : 2/12/2018 9:38 pm : link
Bulls or Magic. I am thinking Magic?
It pisses me off  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:40 pm : link
How the young guys make a mistake they immediately get taken out...

Jack stumbles over himself up and down the court, stays in, hits 1 shot then gets an extra couple of minutes...

Hardaway basically chucked up and down the court never was taken out...

How are guys supposed how to play through mistakes when they are never given a chance to?
Frankís chances  
TyreeHelmet : 2/12/2018 9:42 pm : link
Iím sorry as much as I would love Hornacek to start and play Frank as much as possible, he just played 21 minutes and didnít score or assist. Thatís awful. Hornacek clearly isnít a good coach but thatís on the player.
Notice the player development in Philly.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2018 9:43 pm : link
Covington and McConnell were scrap heap guys who Brett Brown has delevoped into solid pieces. A good coaching staff could do the same for Frank, Mudiay, Baker, etc., but we're stuck with a bunch of village idiots.
Frank  
GMEN46 : 2/12/2018 9:44 pm : link
Will have to be a 2 guard. He has such a bad handle, how could he have ever been considered a future NBA PG. he should spend the whole summer in the weight room and hoisting 3ís, there is no chance he can play pg in the nba with a handle like that. He is starting to remind me of a less athletic Iman Shumpert. Hopefully he can develop the outside shot that shump never has developed. If he can become a 3-D guy it will be fine, again not ideal for a lottery pick when Mitchell was there, but itís over and we have to focus on what Franks role will be in the future if this team.
Let's face it, our young players aren't very good, that's why they are  
Jim in Hoboken : 2/12/2018 9:44 pm : link
not playing. But that's fine, we want to tank anyway, let them sink or swim.

Hardaway is hard to root for, how Mills was allowed to sign him is just comical.

Mudiay doesn't seem to have any burst or creativity with the ball, he just relies on size to get into the paint. Granted I've only watched him briefly thus far, but he was having trouble even bringing the ball up against TJ McConnell.
RE: Frank  
TyreeHelmet : 2/12/2018 9:49 pm : link
In comment 13830551 GMEN46 said:
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Will have to be a 2 guard. He has such a bad handle, how could he have ever been considered a future NBA PG. he should spend the whole summer in the weight room and hoisting 3ís, there is no chance he can play pg in the nba with a handle like that. He is starting to remind me of a less athletic Iman Shumpert. Hopefully he can develop the outside shot that shump never has developed. If he can become a 3-D guy it will be fine, again not ideal for a lottery pick when Mitchell was there, but itís over and we have to focus on what Franks role will be in the future if this team.


Sadly I think you are right. I just canít imagine his ball handling improving that significantly to become even an average starting NBA pg.

Hardaway is hard watch. Heís an overpaid version of Nick Young/ JR Smith. No defense/ low iq gunner. You donít overpay for guys like that.
RE: Let's face it, our young players aren't very good, that's why they are  
nygiants16 : 2/12/2018 9:50 pm : link
In comment 13830552 Jim in Hoboken said:
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not playing. But that's fine, we want to tank anyway, let them sink or swim.

Hardaway is hard to root for, how Mills was allowed to sign him is just comical.

Mudiay doesn't seem to have any burst or creativity with the ball, he just relies on size to get into the paint. Granted I've only watched him briefly thus far, but he was having trouble even bringing the ball up against TJ McConnell.


Knicks have plenty of young guys to play, they have one of the youngest team's in the nba, hornacek just refuses to play them...

As for mudiay the offense is awful, the point guard brings the ball up passes to one side and then basically goes and stands in the corner...

The centers are at the top of the key trying to run the offense...

Last night he played on instinct ran pick and rolls and had 10 assists, tonight they ran more offense and barely ran any pick and rolls...

Need a good lottery pick this year and next year....  
GFAN52 : 2/12/2018 9:53 pm : link
and with KP's injury, that's a pretty good bet.
What good is a lottery pick if they are going to miss? I'd be  
Jim in Hoboken : 2/12/2018 10:06 pm : link
interested to look at Perry's track record. At this rate, they're probably picking from 7-10. With our luck, they'll probably draft Wendall Carter or Mikal Bridges.

Kevin Knox is probably the most promising player in that range.
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Del Shofner : 2/12/2018 10:13 pm : link
In comment 13830557 nygiants16 said:
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The centers are at the top of the key trying to run the offense...

Last night he played on instinct ran pick and rolls and had 10 assists, tonight they ran more offense and barely ran any pick and rolls...


This. While we're all glad the triangle is gone, this O system is not much better. Like you said, just playing pick and roll last night Mudiay was much more effective.
Yeah, we've already won too many games for a top five pick  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2018 10:17 pm : link
unless the ping pong balls miraculously bounce our way. We're hoping to find a good role player at this point. Knox, Sexton or either Bridges would help, but probably not move the needle too much.
Just once I like to see a PG  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2018 10:19 pm : link
cross half court and NOT pass it to Kanter or Kyle standing beyond the arc. Do we run the same exact set every time down?
Knicks lost!  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/12/2018 10:29 pm : link
that's what matters most.
Our lottery luck  
Phil in LA : 2/12/2018 10:31 pm : link
is way overdue.
Our losses to Chicago may come in handy.  
bceagle05 : 2/12/2018 10:41 pm : link
Only two games behind us now. Shame we already played our Nets games with KP. We could lose to them now.
RE: Our lottery luck  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/12/2018 11:34 pm : link
In comment 13830580 Phil in LA said:
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is way overdue.

0 for 14 in the lottery since Ewing. Cumulatively theyíve moved back 11 slots vs. a non-lottery draft system.
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