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Defenderdawg : 2/10/2018 7:08 am

@Jason_OTC Where do you have Giants with Cap room?
Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC)
2/10/18, 1:11 AM
Around $22M but I expect plenty of cuts to come soon


Serby NYP: Pat Shurmur vote of confidence from someone who should know

“You ask Kyle Shurmur what kind of man Giants players and fans are getting in his father.
“Everybody’s getting first off a great man, a great listener,” he said. “A person that knows a lot, has the ability to learn every day and listen to people and take everybody’s perspective into account. I think he’s got enough humility to where he values everybody else’s opinion in the organization. He understands that this is a collective profession. Everybody’s got a piece in the organization.
“I think he understands that this is a player’s game first. At the end of the day, it’s about the players, and he’s doing everything he can to serve the players and let them go, have fun, compete and win ball games.”

Duggan Here's the Giants' updated coaching staff as the OC search nears end


Stapleton The Record: NY Giants: 5 things to know about possible offensive coordinator candidate Kevin Stefanski

Dunleavy Giants OC search: If not Stefanski, get to know Staley


Thompson SNY: Which 'hog mollies' could the Giants target in the Draft?


Art Stapleton (@art_stapleton)
2/9/18, 7:31 PM
Bobby Hart’s tenure with the #NYGiants is officially over as of today. He had been waived/injured in December as a technicality, went unclaimed and reverted to IR after Super Bowl LII.
NYG released him from IR today.


Q With Erik Flowers' last year (since option not picked up), do you just cut him and start fresh or hope new regime gets something out of him?

Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC)
2/10/18, 1:13 AM
Ill have him in my OT cut preview but I think they could try to trade him. The Rams traded Greg Robinson so anything is possible. Both Giants and Flowers are better off without each other IMO

DT Inside the Film Room: DT Dalvin Tomlinson


Cohen How did Calvin Munson go from an UDFA to starting LB on the NY Giants? Read about his journey Giants Insider: LB Calvin Munson


Benoit MMQB: Ranking the NFL's Neediest Teams

“17. NEW YORK GIANTS (3–13)
If the Giants fall head over heels for one of this draft’s QBs, fine. But Eli Manning has shown little sign of decline. His poor 2017 should be resolved, partly, by a healthy receiving corps and a revamped system under new coach Pat Shurmur. Any scheme is stronger with a dynamic back, which New York hasn’t had since Ahmad Bradshaw in ’12. Last year’s fourth-round pick, Wayne Gallman, is intriguing, but not enough to build around. Orleans Darkwa, a better pure runner, could test free agency. So could Shane Vereen. If he leaves, the Giants will need a three-down weapon. If Vereen returns, they ought to get a first- and second-down bell cow, which shouldn’t be too expensive.”

Breech CBS Sports: 2018 NFL free agency: NFL teams will be bidding on small crop of offensive linemen

“Tackles (Listed by Pro Football Focus Ranking)
17. Ja'Wuan James, RT (Dolphins) 
24. Cameron Fleming, RT (Patriots) 
32. Nate Solder, LT (Patriots) 
40. Chris Hubbard, RT (Steelers)
48. Sam Young, RT (Dolphins)
52. Justin Pugh, RT (Giants)
61. Michael Schofield, RT, (Chargers)
“Although James is listed at the top of PFF's rankings, the player to keep an eye on here is Solder and that's because he'll be the best left tackle available when free agency starts. As the top left tackle, there's a good chance Solder is going to be able to command top dollar and if we've learned one thing about Bill Belichick during his time with the Patriots, it's that he generally doesn't like to pay top dollar for anyone. 
The other thing to keep in mind here is that the Patriots actually have two offensive tackles who will be free agents. With Cameron Fleming also free to sign with anyone in March, it's almost a guarantee that the Patriots will only make a play for just one of their guys. Fleming is only 25 -- Solder turns 30 in April -- and Belichick loves to use his younger guy as a swing tackle, so it wouldn't be surprising at all to see the Patriots make a play for Fleming. 
As for James, the Dolphins right tackle might have graded the highest of any free agent, but he comes with a big injury question mark. The 2014 first-round pick missed the final eight games of the 2017 season after going on injured reserve in November with a hamstring injury. When he's healthy, he generally plays well, but there's no guarantee James can stay healthy. Over the past three season, the right tackle has missed 17 out of a possible 48 regular season games for the Dolphins.”

Guards (Listed by Pro Football Focus Ranking)
3. Andrew Norwell, LG (Panthers) 
21. Brandon Fusco, RG (49ers)
22. Josh Kline, RG (Titans) 
23. Joe Berger, RG (Vikings)
29. Evan Smith, RG (Buccaneers)
30. Jahri Evans, RG (Packers)
35. Jonathan Cooper, LG (Cowboys)
42. Senio Kelemete, LG (Saints)
47. Tom Compton, T/G (Bears)
49. Matt Slauson, LG (Chargers)
51. Luke Joeckel, LG (Seahawks)
If you're wondering why the Panthers wouldn't just keep Norwell, it's because they already have a boatload of money locked up in their offensive line, with guys  like guard Trai Turner (four-year, $45 million) and left tackle Matt Kalil (five-year, $55.5 million) signed to big contracts. 
The Panthers will definitely make him an offer, but it's unlikely they'll be able to match any deal that comes from a franchise that's sitting on a fortune of salary cap space.'s Joel Correy, a former agent, believes Norwell will become the highest paid guard in NFL history.
The guards to keep an eye in this class are the six guys listed after Norwell. All six of those guys would be an immediate starter on almost any team they might sign with. One surprise guy on the list is Jonathan Cooper. You might remember him as the seventh overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft. After fizzling out in Arizona (2013-15) and Cleveland (2016), Cooper signed a one-year prove-it contract with the Cowboys in 2017 and had a solid year, starting 13 games for Dallas. He could be an inexpensive upgrade for a team looking to add a guard. 
Any team looking for a durable starter should be looking at Brandon Fusco. Although he's not as good as Norwell, he can be successful in the right offense, not to mention, he's been able to stay incredibly healthy over the past few years. Since 2015, Fusco has played in 46 of a possible 48 games.”

Farrar B/R: The NFL's Best Under-the-Radar Free Agents in 2018

“OG Andrew Norwell
The Carolina Panthers prefer a power run game, and Norwell can handle that. Though he's tall for the position at 6'6", he comes off the snap with good leverage to drive-block defenders out of the way. But his agility and versatility make him special—and why he could be even better on a pass-heavy team.
Norwell is exceptional in pass protection and rarely falls for stunts and other line games. He's also quick to hand off his defender in zone-blocking schemes and is as fast on the move as any guard. Any team with a serious aerial attack and a need for a top-level left guard should back up a Brinks truck to Norwell's house.”

Somers AZ Central: The AZ Cardinals are interested in Cousins, but at his price, they had better be in love with him

Person Charlotte Observer: NFL appears to have investigation of Panthers interim GM Marty Hurney on fast track

Rodrigue Charlotte Observer: Defensive line has talented core, but why must the Panthers draft an edge-rusher?

Chicago Tribune: Sorting through options for 25 Bears slated to become free agents

Biggs Chicago Tribune: Friday is first day Bears can pick up 2018 option in Josh Sitton's contract

Biggs Chicago Tribune: Roster rundown: Bears invested in tight ends in 2017 but didn't get needed production

Cabot Cleveland Plain Dealer: 3 mos. after ranking Baker Mayfield atop the '18 QB class, Browns consultant Scot McCloughan still feels the same, per radio interview. Also doesn't view Redskins' Cousins as special. What does it all mean for the Browns?

Renck The Denver Channel: What does Jimmy G's contract with 49ers mean for Broncos pursuit of Kirk Cousins?


Birkett Detroit Free Press: With his extension done, Lions GM Bob Quinn will sink or swim with new coach Matt Patricia

Liskiewitz PFF: 2018 Free Agency Preview: Detroit Lions

Atkins Michigan Live: Lions hire D-Line coach Bo Davis, who will work with A'Shawn Robinson again

Wilson Houston Chronicle: Texans part ways with scouting executive Larry Wright, others

Stephen Holder (@HolderStephen)
2/9/18, 10:12 AM
Two things: 1) I'm hesitant to try to handicap this search. I don't know if there's a front runner yet. But...

2) Dan Campbell is a tone setter. I know this kind of paints him as a players' coach, but he's not a players' coach in the Pagano mold IMO. He's all about toughness

Holder Indianapolis Star: The Colts’ head coaching situation got messy. But we have lots of clarity on their defensive plan. Here’s a thorough look at the new scheme and how it fits with the Colts’ current players (as well as how it impacts the No. 3 pick)

Kaye WTLV Jacksonville: Taking a look at the 12 players on the Jaguars' injured reserve list

Paylor KC Star: Chiefs are confident in leadership abilities of young Patrick Mahomes

Mellinger KC Star: The Veach-ization of the Chiefs involves making the defense younger. Much younger

Hammond OC Register: Los Angeles Rams offseason analysis: Quarterbacks

Perkins Sun Sentinel: Dolphins name ex-safety Renaldo Hill as assistant DB coach

Goessling Minn Star Tribune: Vikings offensive coordinator John DeFilippo wants to put his mark on team’s already improved offense

Tomasson New Vikings coordinator John DeFilippo has his eye on another Super Bowl

Frederick Here’s what new Vikings coordinator John DeFilippo values in QBs

Ben Goessling (@GoesslingStrib)
2/9/18, 9:25 AM
One thing I'd expect John DeFilippo to prioritize in Minnesota: Continued investment in the offensive line. He had Joe Thomas and Alex Mack in Cleveland, and saw what a powerful line could do in Philadelphia.

Smith 2017 Vikings Position Recap: Offensive Line

Howe Boston Herald: Patriots have work to do to gain more salary cap space

Reiss ESPN Boston: Filling defensive coordinator post tops Patriots' to-do list

Teope Wil Lutz, Thomas Morstead provide reliability for Saints' kicking game

Cimini ESPN NY: How Jimmy G's big deal impacts Jets' potential run at Kirk Cousins

Bair NBC Bay Area: Why Raiders Should Be Happy With Carr's Monster Deal Despite Down Year

Michael Gehlken (@GehlkenNFL)
2/9/18, 4:09 PM
Marshawn Lynch, Jon Gruden have met at Raiders headquarters on multiple occasions since latter’s hiring, per source familiar with situation. Been reported Lynch has blown off Gruden. Lynch’s agent Doug Hendrickson refuted notion Thursday on Twitter.

Kempski Phillyvoice: Eagles apparently safeguarded against Patriots' potential cheating

Berman Eagles offseason overview: Stacked roster returning, but fewer resources for upgrades

Corry CBS Sports: Agent's Take: Foles, free agents and all the offseason decisions the Eagles now face

Kempski Phillyvoice: Winners and losers from the John DeFilippo hiring in Minnesota

Hayes Eagles' Derek Barnett on future after Super Bowl: 'The sky's the limit'

Zeise Pittsburgh Post Gazette: Steelers' actions suggest Art Rooney II knows change is necessary

Rutter Pittsburgh Tribune Review: Steelers sign backup offensive lineman B.J. Finney to 1-year deal

Evans The Undefeated: Pittsburgh Steelers cornerback William Gay teams up with Joe Biden to end domestic violence

Branch SF Chronicle: Jed York, Paraag Marathe not sweating record payout to Jimmy Garoppolo

Kurtenbach SJ Mercury News: Jed York has figured out the key to making the 49ers successful — getting out of the way

Breer MMQB: Jimmy Garoppolo’s New Deal: Kyle Shanahan on How the 49ers’ QB Earned His Contract

Killion SF Chronicle: Jimmy Garoppolo’s locked up and everything’s sunny with the 49ers

Barrows Sac Bee: Shotgun wedding: Instant connection between 49ers, Garoppolo led to quick deal

Barrows Sac Bee: Free agency: 49ers remain cap-rich even with Garoppolo deal on the books

Bucky Brooks (@BuckyBrooks)
2/9/18, 1:36 PM
Interesting numbers..

$42.6M payoff for the 1st year.
2-year, $61.2M payoff at the end of 2019.. $10M more than back to back franchise tags

2020: $23.8M base salary; $15.7M injury guarantees.

49ers can basically get out of the deal after 2 years if JGQ isn't legit. Win-win

Ben Volin (@BenVolin)
2/9/18, 10:14 AM
Really can't stress how much of a favor the Patriots did for the 49ers. They have a solid young coach, a gutted roster, over $60m in cap space and now a young franchise QB to tie it all together. Plum situation in San Francisco

Bell News Tribune: Kam Chancellor milestone reminds Seahawks of perils to extending veteran deals

Stroud TB Times: Forget Colts and Josh McDaniels; no team knows runaway brides better than Bucs

Wyatt Texans WR DeAndre Hopkins Praises Titans Coach Mike Vrabel

Keim ESPN Wash: Jimmy Garoppolo's deal a reminder why Redskins opted for Alex Smith


Trapasso CBS Sports: 2018 NFL Draft: Here's a list of the best players not invited to the combine

Zierlein CBS Sports: Sources Tell Us: ASU's Kalen Ballage will be star of NFL Combine

Miller B/R: Matt Miller's Scouting Notebook: Will Josh McDaniels' Move Shake Up 2018 Draft?


“Coming out of Super Bowl week, one rumor I've heard from so many places is that the top four picks in this draft are for sale. The Cleveland Browns wouldn't trade both the first and fourth picks, but they will take calls on moving one of them. The New York Giants (No. 2 pick) and the Indianapolis Colts (No. 3 pick) will also consider trading down.”

“• How good is Notre Dame guard Quenton Nelson? Said one director of player personnel to me this week: "If you want to call him the best player in this class, no one can argue with you, and there's no way he'll bust. As safe as they come.”

Dubin CBS Sports: 2018 NFL Mock Draft: Both New York teams get QBs, 49ers give Jimmy G running mate

Waldman RSP: RSP Film Room No. 130: QB Sam Darnold (USC)…Git-R-Done

Schofield Inside The Pylon: Here's the 2018 First Sound: Interception Series thread. Kicked things off with Sam Darnold's 12 INTs.

Pflum BBV: 2018 NFL Draft prospect profile: Dimitri Flowers (FB/H-Back, Oklahoma)

Todd McShay (@McShay13)
2/9/18, 11:33 AM
How about this for awareness from Notre Dame OG Quenton Nelson?! One of 5 best players in this draft.


Archer ESPN Dallas: Long-time NFL scout and assistant coach Jim Garrett dies at 87, father of Jason Garrett

Dunleavy Jim Garrett, father of Cowboys coach, dead: Deeply tied to Giants, N.J. football

Garrett started his football playing career at Rutherford HS in New Jersey.
He played college ball at Utah State. He then played military football at Fort Lee. He was in training camp first with the Eagles in 1954. He then spent a year with the BC Lions on the CFL. As a FB, he was in training camp with the Giants in 1956 but spent the season on the inactive list, He signed with Ottawa in the CFL in 1957. After his pro career he went into coaching first in 1958 at Coast Guard Academy, then in 1959 Coach of Lehigh and from 1960-1967: Coach and athletic director of Susquehanna University.

He was a scout for the Cowboys in 1968 and 1969.

Jim Garrett entered the NFL as an assistant coach with the New York Giants in 1969. He was a Giants assistant from 1969 to 1973. He began his Giants tenure as a special teams assistant. He was the Giants offensive coordinator in 1972 and 1973 under Alex Webster.

During his time in NY many former Cowboys players and draft picks showed up in training camp and on the Giants roster:

Les Shy RB/KR DAL 1966-1969 NYG picked up on waivers in 1970.

Pete Gent FL DAL 1964-1968 NYG acquired in a trade in 1969 and was waived at the end of trading camp.

Reggie Rucker WR Dallas 1970-1971 Giants picked up on waivers during 1971 season.

Willie Townes DE DAL 1966-1968 Giants picked up on waivers from NO in 1971, spent training camp with the Giants.

John Douglas LB D4 Dallas 1968, picked by the Giants on waivers on was with the Giants from 1970 to 1973.

Pete Athas CB D4 Dallas 1968, picked up on as a street free agent in 1971 by the Giants and was with the Giants through 1974.

Otto Brown CB UDFA with Dallas in 1969, picked up on waivers by the Giants and was with NY from 1970 to 1973

Mike Gaechter S 1971 Was with Dallas from 1962 until 1969, after spending 1970 on IR was acquired by the Giants in a offseason trade in 1971 but elected to stay retired.

Richmond Flowers S Dallas D2 1969; was with Dallas from 1969 to 1971; picked by Washington in 1971 then traded to the Giants where he played from 1971 to 1973.

Christl Packers Hall of Famer John Martinkovic dies

“Less than two weeks before the 1957 season opener, the Packers traded Martinkovic to the defending NFL champion New York Giants in exchange for what turned out to be a third-round draft pick that the Packers used to select Ray Nitschke.
Martinkovic played one season for the Giants and retired. However, he was exposed to a little known assistant coach named Vince Lombardi that year and knew well what some of his former teammates were in for when the Packers hired Lombardi as head coach before the 1959 season.”

Martinkovic was acquired because Giants DT Rosey Grier was serving a year in the military, with Martinkovic at end, Jim Katcavage moved to DT.

After a 31-17 loss to the Giants in 1957
Giants Coach Jim Lee Howell said:
“Howell also lauded former Packer defensive end John Martinkovic, now playing with the Giants. "Martinkovic had a real good day. As a matter of fact, he's played a couple of great games since he's been with us and in the others he's played good steady ball."

The Packers coach said:
“Blackbourn praised former Packer John Martinkovic for playing "his usual good game." But as Liz pointed out, "I would still trade him to the Giants today. He plays only one position while Massey can play either as a defensive end or a halfback. I'm real satisfied with our defensive ends." Blackbourn said the draft choice he got for Martinkovic would not be one of those picked in the early draft meeting in Philadelphia December 2. And speaking of that draft, Liz said, "I haven't really decided on whom we would go after. I presume our first pick would be a good running back."

Giants Birthdays 2-10 to 2-16


Sterling Shepherd WR D2-Oklahoma 2016 NYG 2016-2017 2-10-1994


Darcy Johnson TE UDFA-Central Florida 2006 NYG 2006, NYG IR 2007, NYG 2008-2009 2-11-1983

Ryan Mundy FS FA-PIT 2013 NYG 2013 2-11-1985


Curry Burns FS W-HOU 2004 NYG 2004 2-12-1981

Maurice Douglass DB FA-CHI 1995 NYG 1995-1996 2-12-1964

John McDowell T TR-GB 1965 NYG 1965 2-12-1942

Kerry Wynn DE UDFA-Richmond 2014 NYG 2014-2017 2-12-1991


Preston Parker WR W-TB 2014 NYG 2014-2015 2-13-1987


Jared Lorenzen QB UDFA-Kentucky 2006 NYG 2006-2007 2-14-1981

Willie Ponder WR D6-SE Missouri State 2093 NYG 2003-2005 2-14-1980

James Sims RB UDFA-Washington 2006 NYG 2006 2-14-1983

Anthony Wright QB FA-CIN 2007 NYG 2007 2-14-1976


Karl Chandler C/LG UDFA-Princeton 1974 NYG 1974-1977 2-15-1952

Kelly Saalfeld C W-GB 1980 NYG 1980 2-15-1956

Lance Scott C W-ARI 1987 NYG 1987-1988 2-15-1972


George Martin LDE D11-Oregon 1975 NYG 1975-1988 2-16-1953

Dick Modzelewski LDT TR-PIT 1956 NYG 1956-1963 2-16-1931
Keep an eye on Joe Berger  
jeff57 : 2/10/2018 7:57 am : link
For RG or C. Shurmur knows him well.
Of all of the arguments against going QB with the #2 pick  
BestFeature : 2/10/2018 4:27 pm : link
Eli is not completely washed up yet is by far the worst.
Giants should pick up Flowers 5th year option  
est1986 : 2/10/2018 6:27 pm : link
It is not guaranteed so we can pull it if he doesn't show he is worth it in 2018.
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