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Navarro Bowman

Andy in Boston : 2/7/2018 10:10 am
I'm thinking he could be a top free agent priority for the Giants in addition the the OL.

Had a decent year last year....is fully recovered from his horrific injury.

He can play inside with Woodson if the Giants play alot of 3-4....and he can certainly be an MLB or SLB in a 4-3 scheme. He should be somewhat affordable.....and I think he'd be a great locker room guy. Thoughts?
I'd be interested  
jeff57 : 2/7/2018 10:11 am : link
Karlos Dansby is another veteran ILB who Bettcher knows well.
Id hope not...lets stay with younger prospects.  
BLUATHRT : 2/7/2018 10:12 am : link
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If the Giants are switching to a 3-4  
Jay on the Island : 2/7/2018 10:12 am : link
and Bowman is willing to sign for 1-2 million on a 1 year deal then yes he should be brought in as a two down ILB to compete for the starting spot next to Goodson. Bowman is a liability in coverage now and he isn't close to the impact player he was earlier in his career.
RE: Id hope not...lets stay with younger prospects.  
Andy in Boston : 2/7/2018 10:14 am : link
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I think he's only 29....he has a couple years left in him.
Theres only so many draft choices...  
bLiTz 2k : 2/7/2018 10:21 am : link
FA signings like Bowmen or Dansby would be an excellent move, especially when implementing a new system.

Everyone wants to only have young players, until the young guys are hurt or just plain suck.

You need a few vets in every position group.
RE: I'd be interested  
regulator : 2/7/2018 10:27 am : link
In comment 13824917 jeff57 said:
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Karlos Dansby is another veteran ILB who Bettcher knows well.


Dansby is still around? Jeez... every time his contract is up he gets mentioned as a Giants target!
RE: Id hope not...lets stay with younger prospects.  
Brown Recluse : 2/7/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 13824921 BLUATHRT said:
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The "Too old, pass" crowd will never get it.
RE: If the Giants are switching to a 3-4  
JohnnyFlowers : 2/7/2018 11:02 am : link
In comment 13824922 Jay on the Island said:
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and Bowman is willing to sign for 1-2 million on a 1 year deal then yes he should be brought in as a two down ILB to compete for the starting spot next to Goodson. Bowman is a liability in coverage now and he isn't close to the impact player he was earlier in his career.


What percentage of starting NFL linebackers ARE good in coverage? And the few that excel in this area are sometimes not very good in stopping the run. For arguments sake, lets say there are 100 starting LB's in the NFL. Give me 10 that excel at both.
RE: RE: Id hope not...lets stay with younger prospects.  
jeff57 : 2/7/2018 11:05 am : link
In comment 13824965 Brown Recluse said:
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The "Too old, pass" crowd will never get it.


Yep. A veteran presence, especially if you're switching to a new scheme, shouldn't be underestimated.
RE: RE: Id hope not...lets stay with younger prospects.  
Breeze_94 : 2/7/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 13824927 Andy in Boston said:
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I think he's only 29....he has a couple years left in him.


Surprised he is only 29 it seems like he's been around forever.
RE: I'd be interested  
Breeze_94 : 2/7/2018 11:29 am : link
In comment 13824917 jeff57 said:
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Karlos Dansby is another veteran ILB who Bettcher knows well.


I've been saying the Giants should go after Kevin Minter, another ILB who has played for Bettcher and actually had his 2 best years in that scheme. Still relatively young. He will be affordable, especially coming off a down year in Cincy. I don't think he fit the Bengals system as well as he did in Bettcher's system.

But, in 2016 under Bettcher, Minter was graded as a top 25 lb.
No more older players, the Giants want to get younger, faster, and  
SterlingArcher : 2/7/2018 11:34 am : link
healthier.
Goodson  
AdamBrag : 2/7/2018 11:39 am : link
I'd guess Goodson starts at SILB with Vernon at SOLB. They need guys to man the weakside spots. Guys like Nigel Bradham and Tahir Whitehead are possibilities. I'd look at bringing Keenan Robinson back cheaply too. It's also feasible Collins starts as an outside linebacker.
RE: No more older players, the Giants want to get younger, faster, and  
MBavaro : 2/7/2018 11:40 am : link
In comment 13825093 SterlingArcher said:
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healthier.


I'd say he's on the younger side of "old" at 29, especially with a team-friendly contract.
Collins ...  
GeorgeAdams33 : 2/7/2018 12:17 pm : link
is not switching to OLB, ILB, WLB, or any other kind of LB

He is a SS
PFT is speculating  
Jay on the Island : 2/7/2018 12:54 pm : link
that the Rams might be forced to cut Mark Barron for cap purposes. They also mentioned Robert Quinn but that doesn't make any sense. Barron would be a solid addition at the right price.
RE: Goodson  
Jay on the Island : 2/7/2018 12:57 pm : link
In comment 13825119 AdamBrag said:
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I'd guess Goodson starts at SILB with Vernon at SOLB. They need guys to man the weakside spots. Guys like Nigel Bradham and Tahir Whitehead are possibilities. I'd look at bringing Keenan Robinson back cheaply too. It's also feasible Collins starts as an outside linebacker.

Devon Kennard can play ILB or OLB in Bettcher's scheme. He should be brought back to compete at both spots. Worst case scenario is that he is a situational pass rusher that provides solid depth.
RE: Goodson  
BillT : 2/7/2018 1:05 pm : link
In comment 13825119 AdamBrag said:
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I'd guess Goodson starts at SILB with Vernon at SOLB. They need guys to man the weakside spots. Guys like Nigel Bradham and Tahir Whitehead are possibilities. I'd look at bringing Keenan Robinson back cheaply too. It's also feasible Collins starts as an outside linebacker.

This is why I don't get the 3-4 talk or the enthusiasm for it. Vernon at SOLB!? Does this really sound like a good idea for a guy who's had his hand in the dirt for his whole career. Don't get it.
RE: RE: Goodson  
jeff57 : 2/7/2018 1:12 pm : link
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I'd guess Goodson starts at SILB with Vernon at SOLB. They need guys to man the weakside spots. Guys like Nigel Bradham and Tahir Whitehead are possibilities. I'd look at bringing Keenan Robinson back cheaply too. It's also feasible Collins starts as an outside linebacker.


This is why I don't get the 3-4 talk or the enthusiasm for it. Vernon at SOLB!? Does this really sound like a good idea for a guy who's had his hand in the dirt for his whole career. Don't get it.


He played some stand up with Miami.
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jeff57 : 2/7/2018 1:13 pm : link
In comment 13825307 Jay on the Island said:
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I'd guess Goodson starts at SILB with Vernon at SOLB. They need guys to man the weakside spots. Guys like Nigel Bradham and Tahir Whitehead are possibilities. I'd look at bringing Keenan Robinson back cheaply too. It's also feasible Collins starts as an outside linebacker.


Devon Kennard can play ILB or OLB in Bettcher's scheme. He should be brought back to compete at both spots. Worst case scenario is that he is a situational pass rusher that provides solid depth.


Kennard's not that great. They need to move on.
Isnít Dansby ancient? Bring him in as assistant coach!  
Ivan15 : 2/7/2018 1:22 pm : link
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AdamBrag : 2/7/2018 1:24 pm : link
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I'd guess Goodson starts at SILB with Vernon at SOLB. They need guys to man the weakside spots. Guys like Nigel Bradham and Tahir Whitehead are possibilities. I'd look at bringing Keenan Robinson back cheaply too. It's also feasible Collins starts as an outside linebacker.


This is why I don't get the 3-4 talk or the enthusiasm for it. Vernon at SOLB!? Does this really sound like a good idea for a guy who's had his hand in the dirt for his whole career. Don't get it.



He played some stand up with Miami.


Vernon stood up a lot last year with NY.
If NYG wants to spend on a LB  
Sy'56 : 2/7/2018 1:44 pm : link
Nigel Bradham - PHI
RE: If NYG wants to spend on a LB  
Jay on the Island : 2/7/2018 2:07 pm : link
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Nigel Bradham - PHI

Agreed
RE: RE: I'd be interested  
paesan98 : 2/7/2018 8:53 pm : link
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Karlos Dansby is another veteran ILB who Bettcher knows well.



Dansby is still around? Jeez... every time his contract is up he gets mentioned as a Giants target!


Maybe it's because he's better than most of the LBs on our roster
Luke.......luuuuke......loooke...  
idiotsavant : 2/7/2018 9:07 pm : link
To the draft ....my son's.... May the draft be with you...
RE: No more older players, the Giants want to get younger, faster, and  
Mike from Ohio : 2/8/2018 12:26 pm : link
In comment 13825093 SterlingArcher said:
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healthier.


Yes! We should only be signing the up and coming 25 year old studs hitting free agency, and only on team friendly deals!

/end sarcasm

Demario Davis and Avery Williamson  
jeff57 : 2/8/2018 1:19 pm : link
are two other FA ILBs they should look at.
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